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July 13, 2004

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» Missive from Madison County from Ideoblog
In a post today Evan Schaefer, in his Notes from the (Legal) Underground, accuses me of being "ignorant of the law" -- not only in the body of the post, but in the title as well. He's referring to my [Read More]

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» The Madison County problem from Ideoblog
A comment on my last post on Madison County takes me to task for merely citing my articles rather than presenting “ideas, arguments or facts” on “what specific ways Mad. County or Illinois tort law favors "local attorneys" or the [Read More]

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Abnu

Evan, I'm with the professor on this one. I think it's fair to say that you misunderstood him when he wrote, "which are decided under local rules that favor in-state plaintiffs' lawyers over out-of-state companies, consumers and shareholders." In this context, where "in-state" and "out-of-state" are used in the sentence, it would have been superfluous to write "state" laws, as well. It makes for a more readable sentence to use the word "local" in this instance, which should be understood by a law professor's knowledgeable readership to mean "state" laws. I would think that the professor chooses his words carefully. That said, I wonder if the repeated misspelling of your name in his retort was deliberate. ;) Regards, Abnu

Evan

Abnu: I'm sure the misspelling was accidental. Thanks for the comment.

David Giacalone

I wonder what Prof. R. is doing with all those extra f's. Perhaps, creating string-cite footnotes. Sure hope he answers the question I left at his site, and spells my name correctly, and starts picking his words a little more carefully.

David Giacalone

I'm starting to think that law professors and tort lawyers (both sides) have very thin skins -- along with thick skulls, myopia, and very selective hearing. Anybody know a good doctor? How about on of those psychologists who use cross-examination on their patients?

Makes me glad to be an ex-pundit gadfly.

Evan

David: Guilty as charged, I suppose.

David Giacalone

You left a very instructive, helpful Comment at Ribstein's weblog, and I hope a lot of people read it. See http://busmovie.typepad.com/ideoblog/2004/07/the_madison_cou.html

Ted

There are local rules that apply just to individual courtrooms in Madison County--most defense lawyers aren't subject to trial calendaring where dozens of trials against the same defendant brought by the same attorney are scheduled for the same day and the plaintiff gets to pick at the last minute which one will go forward.

Too, there are readings of basic issues such as proof of causation or class certification standards that are unique to Madison County separate and independent from the rest of Illinois. And there are certainly lawyers in Madison County who operate under their own private set of rules. So Professor Ribstein has nothing to shy away from in his original claim.

Evan

Ted: As always, thanks for your comment. However, Professor Ribstein did move away from his original claim, with good reason. As for your depiction of Madison County, it's so over-the-top it makes me chuckle. I don't know if you've ever been here, but if you've got any plans to be in town, I'd be happy to show you around. Just be sure to leave your six-shooter at home. You won't need it, despite what you might think, and other people's guns always make me a little nervous.

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